Your way in
No wave 1978
A total refusal of melody and standard tuning. Short-lived, extreme and hugely influential on noise rock.
- Heaviness
- 6
- Speed
- 5
- Melody
- 1
- Where from
- New York, USA
- Tempo
- 100-200 bpm
- Song length
- 1.5-4 min
- Written about
- Refusal, Violence, The city, Nothing, aggressively
- Vocals
- Shouted
Why this one
| You said | No wave | Match | Weight |
|---|---|---|---|
| Shouting, but I can still hear the words When someone is singing, what should come out? | shouted | 100% | ×3 |
| There, but not the point How much weight do you want behind it? | 6 out of 10 | 90% | ×2 |
| Slow. Let it take its time. What pace? | 5 out of 10 | 60% | ×2 |
| The beginnings Does it matter when it was made? | 1978 | 64% | ×1 |
| Somewhere else entirely What should the words be about? | Refusal, Violence, The city, Nothing, aggressively | 0% | ×1 |
| Normal How long should a song be? | up to 4 min | 96% | ×1 |
| Weighted mean | 76% | ||
Ranked over all 150 genres in the encyclopedia, on the 6 answers you gave, weighted vocals 3, heaviness 2, pace 2, era 1, about 1, length 1 out of 10. No wave leads the next by 2 points. Where two genres score the same the broader one wins, because a genre with subgenres under it is somewhere to carry on from and a leaf is a full stop.
Five records, in this order
- 1Start one step outside
Joy Division, Unknown Pleasures 1979
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures. Martin Hannett's production is half the record.
- 2Then
- 3Then
- 4Then
- 5Then
Swans, Filth 1983
The first is the entry point for Post-punk, one step outside, so the second record has something to be heard against. After it come No wave's essential records in the order the encyclopedia lists them. Every one of these has a page here with links out to somewhere it can be played.
If that is not it
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Folk metal 70%
Traditional instruments and folk melodies built into metal. Every region has written its own version.
On the other branch of the tree entirely, and 6 steps from No wave.
The way into Folk metal -
Melodic hardcore 68%
Same speed and urgency, but with sung choruses and guitar harmonies.
4 steps from No wave, meeting it only at Punk rock.
The way into Melodic hardcore
Not simply the second and third of the ranking: those are almost always near neighbours of the first, which is three names for one suggestion. An alternate has to sit at least 4 steps through the tree from the headline and from the other alternate, which is the same floor the "sounds like this, but isn't" panel uses.
What your answers ruled out
- Slow. Let it take its time. put 22 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Hardcore punk, Black metal, Death metal. Worth 2 of 10.
- The beginnings put 67 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Folk metal, Metalcore, Nu metal. Worth 1 of 10.
- Somewhere else entirely put 106 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Punk rock, Hardcore punk, Alternative rock. Worth 1 of 10.
- Normal put 13 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Progressive rock, Krautrock, Acid rock. Worth 1 of 10.
Counted as genres scoring 20% or less on that answer alone. A recommendation that only shows what it chose is hiding half of what it did.