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Post-hardcore 1985
Hardcore that allows itself dynamics, empty space and irregular structures. Emo, screamo and mathcore all branch off from here.
- Heaviness
- 5
- Speed
- 6
- Melody
- 7
- Where from
- Washington DC / Chicago
- Tempo
- 120-170 bpm
- Song length
- 3-6 min
- Written about
- Complicity, Institutions, Self-examination, Language itself
- Vocals
- Sung and screamed
Why this one
| You said | Post-hardcore | Match | Weight |
|---|---|---|---|
| Both, trading off When someone is singing, what should come out? | mixed | 100% | ×3 |
| There, but not the point How much weight do you want behind it? | 5 out of 10 | 100% | ×2 |
| Quick and driving What pace? | 6 out of 10 | 90% | ×2 |
| The dark What should the words be about? | Complicity, Institutions, Self-examination, Language itself | 0% | ×1 |
| No. Texture and force are enough. Do you want a tune you could hum afterwards? | 7 out of 10 | 40% | ×1 |
| Weighted mean | 80% | ||
Ranked over all 150 genres in the encyclopedia, on the 5 answers you gave, weighted vocals 3, heaviness 2, pace 2, about 1, melody 1 out of 9. Post-hardcore ties with the next, and won on being the broader of the two. Where two genres score the same the broader one wins, because a genre with subgenres under it is somewhere to carry on from and a leaf is a full stop.
Five records, in this order
- 1Start one step outside
Bad Brains, Bad Brains 1982
Bad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.
- 2The one to put on first
Refused, The Shape of Punk to Come 1998
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come. The title was an arrogant joke that came true.
- 3Then
- 4Then
- 5Then
The first is the entry point for Hardcore punk, one step outside, so the second record has something to be heard against. After it come Post-hardcore's essential records in the order the encyclopedia lists them. Every one of these has a page here with links out to somewhere it can be played.
If that is not it
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First wave 80%
The bands that supplied the name and the themes, while still playing speed or thrash metal. Venom released the album that christened the genre.
On the other branch of the tree entirely, and 7 steps from Post-hardcore.
The way into First wave -
Easycore 80%
Pop punk with hardcore breakdowns glued into the middle. Sweet chorus, hammer at the end.
4 steps from Post-hardcore, meeting it only at Punk rock.
The way into Easycore
Not simply the second and third of the ranking: those are almost always near neighbours of the first, which is three names for one suggestion. An alternate has to sit at least 4 steps through the tree from the headline and from the other alternate, which is the same floor the "sounds like this, but isn't" panel uses.
What your answers ruled out
- Both, trading off put 72 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Alternative rock, Blues rock, Doom metal. Worth 3 of 9.
- The dark put 119 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Punk rock, Hardcore punk, Alternative rock. Worth 1 of 9.
- No. Texture and force are enough. put 40 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Folk metal, Folk rock, Emo. Worth 1 of 9.
Counted as genres scoring 20% or less on that answer alone. A recommendation that only shows what it chose is hiding half of what it did.