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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Youth crew / straight edge1986

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headYouth crew / straight edge vs Black metal
Youth crew / straight edge: heaviness 5, melody 5, speed 8. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness5 / 9Melody5 / 4Speed8 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, in figures

Black metal is clearly heavier (+4), slightly faster (+1) and slightly less melodic (−1) than Youth crew / straight edge. It emerged in 1982, 4 years before Youth crew / straight edge in 1986. They sit on opposite branches of the tree and share no common ancestor.

Assembled from the stored ratings, dates and tree positions, not written.
Heaviness
Youth crew / straight edge5
Black metal9
+4
Speed
Youth crew / straight edge8
Black metal9
+1
Melody
Youth crew / straight edge5
Black metal4
−1

Youth crew / straight edge

1986 · New York, USA

Where it sits

RockPunk rockHardcore punkYouth crew / straight edge

In short

Hardcore with a code: no alcohol, no drugs, gang vocals and breakdowns. The ethics of the scene became the subject of the songs.

How it sounds

  • Gang vocals - the chorus shouted by the whole band and the audience at once.
  • A breakdown at the midpoint, with the tempo halved, made for dancing.
  • Simple riffs, with the emphasis on energy and message.

Key acts

  • Youth of Today
  • Gorilla Biscuits
  • Minor Threat

Start here

The pickGorilla Biscuits - Start Today. Optimistic hardcore, which is rarer than it sounds.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metalBlack metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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